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:Yes I agree {{ZelDelet}} 02:47, sie 4, 2018 (UTC)

{{Magwac}} 23:09, sie 3, 2018 (UTC)<br />

{{Grzeeesiek}} 23:11, sie 3, 2018 (UTC)<br />

[[Użytkownik:Trujnik|Trujnik]] ([[Dyskusja użytkownika:Trujnik|dyskusja]]) 23:11, sie 3, 2018 (UTC)<br />

{{Trojanin}} 12:11, sie 5, 2018 (UTC) <br />

== About ZelDelet ==

Hi! :)

In my opinion, an accusation addressed by Macwac, Grzeeesiek and Trujnik is an overinterpretation.

Anyway, he knew about TRE, which has supposed to be normal, but something bad happened. TRE has turned into vandalism, which wasn't coherent with the plans.

Besides that I consider ZelDelet to be trustworthy. Moreover, he has considerable experience at managing this wiki (he has been promoted to bureaucrat not too long after Nonsensopedia has been founded).

Your sincerely

{{Nnvist}} 20:38, sie 5, 2018 (UTC)

== Not all is gold that glitters ==

I am a member of the posse, which took over the Nonsensopedia after the disaster and I feel free to lodge my rationale as well. In my opinion, ZelDelet is just a career-oriented guy with fragile morality and lack of interpersonal skills, with only one goal ahead – winning and maintaining an absolute power. Sooner or later, his promotion will result in a wave of resignations of people, who dared to maintain the project in a decent condition after the upheaval and work their socks off to keep it up and running. As I had a big gap in my editing history (I am a devoted wikipedian), I took the strain to read a pretty chunk of discussions when Zel was in power and I reckon, that Zel's leadership was reckless, resulting in a chain of unnecessary flame wars and authoritarianism of the worst sort. Nefarious deeds and conflicting the people involved seem not the best way of managing the project, do they? To make the long story short, we are well and truly convinced, that Zel's leadership will bring the project into demise and disrepute. [[Użytkownik:Trujnik|Trujnik]] ([[Dyskusja użytkownika:Trujnik|dyskusja]]) 20:54, sie 5, 2018 (UTC)

== Re ==

Thanks! I'll try not to break anything :) {{Magwac}} 20:41, sie 6, 2018 (UTC)

:I think he'll make a great addition to the team once his ban expires :) I'll keep an eye on him, but I believe he is quite alright. Thank you for the notice. {{Magwac}} 19:02, sie 10, 2018 (UTC)

== User Mrobornik ==

Welcome. I noticed your message to Magwac user about shortening the ban of Mrobornik user. I am writing to you, because of this user's last action, which is reprehensible. On August 20, user Michsar threw in the ages Nonsensopedia Fandom and Miraheze a job that was one big personal attack on me. Michsar, Mrobornik and Repitcafe (banned globally) took part in it. The work on Fandom was deleted by the admin [[https://nonsa.pl/wiki/Non%C5%BAr%C3%B3d%C5%82a:NonAnaliza:_odcinek_18?redlink=1&action=edit&flow=create-page-special-redlink]], but the Miraheze was not erased. That's why I think you should think again about whether Mrobornik should come back on the wiki. If on the same day it corrupts the swearing oath, and at the same time I write a huge personal attack, I do not think that such a person will be a good user. Michsar has already been punished (he lost his powers), but I do not think it's enough punishment. These users additionally boasted about their work on Miraheze. It's your decision whether these users will continue to edit, but because of their actions, I say that this is a good idea. Their behavior is reprehensible as confirmed by other Fandom users in [[Dyskusja użytkownika:Michsar|Michsar's discussion]]. If you want to know more about this whole situation, write to my discussion. Regards {{Jacekzetor82}} 18:10, sie 21, 2018 (UTC)

== Bypassing global cincinno ==

Hello! I am writing to you again about avoiding the global blockade of one of the users. It is about the user [[Użytkownik:WatermelonPL|WatermelonPL]] who got a global blockade for vandalism during Tre. At present, a user [[Użytkownik:MelonPL|MelonPL]] (It does not have its own site so far, so it provides a link to the editing contribution [[https://nonsa.pl/wiki/Specjalna:Wk%C5%82ad/MelonPL]]) appears on OZ, which is clearly an additional WatermelonPL account. WatermelonPL = MelonPL. In addition, the only edition was the user was to withdraw the edition of my bot from the Mirror, where I removed WatermelonaPL from the list due to vandalism (canceled my bot edition [[https://nonsa.pl/wiki/Nonsensopedia:Lustro/V-Z?action=history]]. As far as I know, bypassing the global blockade, a ban is also obtained, and here the bypassing is visible to the naked eye. Unfortunately, almost all of the administration is on holidays, so I am asking you to investigate this matter and most likely have banned the additional account used to bypass the ban. If you have additional questions, write to my discussion. {{Jacekzetor82}} 21:08, sie 24, 2018 (UTC)

== Re: Hi Magwac! ==

Hi! We are doing quite well. We've appointed a returning admin, Runab0. We are working hard on creating new content and are preparing for 13th birthday of Nonsensopedia :)

We have not blocked any efforts taken by Zel. After he was given back his admin right, he disappeared for a month. Recently he came back and after I personally encouraged him to edit, he edited for a few days and disappeared again. We tried to cooperate with him, but he was quite reluctant. The problem is, after the fork Zel transferred control of our official email account, IRC channel and social media accounts to the forked wiki. I haven't been able to persuade him to give current admins access to these accounts, which are vital for Nonsensopedia.

Regarding his bureaucrat right – I understand that you have the final word. If he will be promoted, then I will work with him for the good of the wiki, but I personally don't think he will make a good bureaucrat. Maybe the community should decide? On Nonsensopedia we have a long-standing tradition of voting for new admins, like on Wikipedia.

I suggest making a voting in which members of the community, people who really care about Nonsensopedia will decide if they want ZelDelet as their bureaucrat. {{Magwac}} 09:30, wrz 11, 2018 (UTC)

:I also have some doubt about Zel's bureaucrat rights. As Magwac wrote, he disapeeared for a month when he got admin rights, and when he came back over a week ago, he edited for four days and he's unavailable again right now. I have '''never''' seen him on our current IRC channel, so most users haven't had a word with him for over a month. When I asked him in August about his plans about Nonsensopedia and about future of wiki, he didn't answer any questions, trying to change topic of conversation.

:In my opinion, making a voting in community would be the best way to decide. Nonsensopedia is doing pretty well right now, there are enough admins and mods to take care of recent changes and making new pages. This system worked for over a decade, because the community decided what's best for project. I don't know if Zel wrote to you about his bureaucrat rights, but if he did so, I see it as using a backdoor to have all rights on wiki without permit of community. {{Grzeeesiek}} 10:50, wrz 11, 2018 (UTC)

::Here Runab – I also have doubt about Zel's bureaucrat rights. Zel is practically inactive – his last editions don't require rights. In my opinion in the past Zel will not be a good bureaucrat. Contact with him is very limited, he often goes on vacation and he neglects project (I think that his vacations are only the escapes from real problems). The community should decide about bureaucrat rights for Zel. [[Użytkownik:Runab0|Runab0]] ([[Dyskusja użytkownika:Runab0|dyskusja]]) 12:25, wrz 11, 2018 (UTC)

:::I'm not an admin, however I'm an old member of this here community and a witness (also often a participant) of various periods, and I can pretty much admit it has always been democratic, even if [[:Kategoria:RFC|talking about bureaucrats]]. As stated before, the community deserves the right to discuss also this case.<br/>Opinionated rant henceforth: Zel, for last two years, was keeping the bureaucrat rights just because of momentum – his activity (both social and as a creator) is unnoticeable, but he refused to grant anybody with rank of bureaucrat, appreciating the fact of being ''the only'', and presence of an active one would endanger his ''reign''. Zel was indeed one of Nonsensopedia's founders, but he finds it a sufficient argument to be the bureaucrat, despite having no current contribution. I'm not trying to suggest he's somewhat ''dangerous'', he's not, however I – we, in fact – don't appreciate promoting a both inactive and career-oriented person. Also his allegiance to nonsensopedia.wikia is quite dubious, as he [https://nonsensopedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Nonsensopedia:Administratorzy immediately became the only bureaucrat on the forked wiki], seeming to care about nothing but his high seat, regardless which one will stand ''the true Nonsensopedia''. However his bias can be noticed considering he can be contacted only via channels dedicated to the forked wiki. {{Serscull}} 20:23, wrz 13, 2018 (UTC)

:::: Thanks you all for the responses! I have talked with our staff team and we agree we respect the community's decision. At this point, we won't give Zel the bureaucrat right. This wiki needs daily maintenance and the current admins have been making great effort on that and we appreciate it. Zel will keep his admin right for the sake of his long term effort put on this wiki. If the community agrees to promote Zel back to the bureaucrat again, we will respect that! :)[[User:Cal-Boy|<font color="Blue">Chen</font>]] <staff /> 21:15, wrz 13, 2018 (UTC)

== Re: Promotion of Mr obornik ==

Well, it was in fact community's decision (we have a voting in place for moderator promotion). And about mass deletion – well, I certainly agree it was incredibly damaging to the wiki, but Mr obornik has apologized for his actions since (in contrast to other users that vandalized this wiki with him). From what I understand the decision to mass vandalize Nonsensopedia was was agreed upon by previous administration. We will '''never''' do that and we are keeping an eye on him.

I think a three month ban was enough for him and I trust him enough to let be a content-moderator. If he does something stupid (which I doubt) then I'll clean up the mess and admit that you were right :) I won't insist that he should be a moderator, though. {{Magwac}} 09:16, lis 29, 2018 (UTC)